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Pastor resigns amid sex scandal

By Adamson Charles

The police are investigating a young popular Pastor, who is said to be married and is also an ordained minister. Church sources allege that the minister had been dogged with several reports of having illicit sexual relationships with young female church members over the years. Reports indicate that the police are seeking the minister for questioning since the female member involved is said to be a 14-year-old school girl. Tobago News was told by a well-placed church source that when the mother of the girl discovered the illicit relationship between her daughter and the pastor, she reported the matter to high ranking officials of the church. “He was due to be transferred from one church district to another,” revealed the source. The irate mother then used the social media of Facebook, to expose the issue and this created quite a stir among the membership of the church,” declared the source. “Following pleas from church officials, the mother relented and deleted the Facebook posting. Contacted about the explosive issue, Secretary/Treasurer of the Tobago SDA Mission Pastor Clyde Lewis pointed out that the church had already taken action to deal with the matter. “The pastor in question has resigned from the ministry effective June 30, 2013 and the matter is now in the hands of the police,” confirmed Pastor Lewis. Questioned, why the church took so long to deal with this pastor, who clearly had a problem, Pastor Lewis pointed out that the hierarchy of the church did everything to support the deviant minister. “We arranged several counselling sessions with him hoping that he would mend his ways,” said Pastor Lewis with a tinge of sadness in his voice. Tobago has been grappling with the issue of sex abuse of minors by adults, who are authority figures. Social workers have been reporting several cases of pre-teen and early teen pregnancy within recent times. Some have been calling for swifter action in dealing with the perpetrators of these sex crimes. Sex with a minor, under the age of 16 years is considered as statutory rape and it is time that we organize a more robust system where sex offenders are named, shamed and jailed,” declared one concerned social worker. Secretary of Health and Social Services Claudia Groome-Duke, when contacted about the seeming rise in pregnancies among under-aged girls indicated that she did not have such data at this point in time. “I will review the trend analysis and get back to you with a comment as soon as possible,” she promised.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Feb 10 at 7:11 AM

to all you all u sda talk now nah what u all have to say now is little children involvele now so are there lying like how all say holder victim was lying on him

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Concerned said on Saturday, Jan 4 at 11:52 AM

The bottom line to this whole tragedy is..a child was involved, whether she consented or not it is wrong.Come on people lets keep focus, I can relate to some of the feelings shared, but at the end of the day a horrible crime was committed and justice should be served.This demonic practice is pandemic. No culture, race or religion is spared. Most importantly something needs to be done to avoid its increasing occurrence.

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Dec 31 at 3:17 AM

vvv

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Name N shame. said on Thursday, Dec 19 at 7:45 AM

Remember folks. Name and shame perverts.

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the virginian said on Monday, Dec 16 at 3:06 PM

Anon@6:06AM,you're essentially saying one of two things in your following quote:"If there were a just God, this excuse of a man would be in jail...." (1)You're saying either that there is a God but, as you see it,that God is unjust or (2) That there's no God at all,not even an unjust one. Which is it? Do you recall Portia's famous speech in Shakespeare's "Merchant Of Venice" with mercy and justice as the main theme? Don't worry,I'd spare you the pain.I won't regurgitate it here.

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Anon said on Monday, Dec 16 at 2:06 AM

If there were a just God, this excuse of a man would be in jail where he would receive redemption from many a black stick!!

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citylimer said on Wednesday, Dec 11 at 8:30 PM

MANO BENJAMIN's brother is waiting for him on the inside and his backside will pay.

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the virginian said on Wednesday, Dec 4 at 4:41 PM

A Christian Who Prays...@1:56AM;predicated on your narrative,perhaps you might not understand the purpose served by "forgiveness." Forgiveness usually benefits the person who has been defiled more so than the one committing the reprehensible act. Though the person who has been sullied might not forget the act altogether,forgiveness somewhat helps relieve him/her of some of the sting of the egregiousness as well as the anger the person might feel against his/her transgressor.You see, anger is a corrosive element which ultimately destroys the vessel--the person-- that transports it. Essentially, forgiveness is part of the healing process for the one who has been wronged more so than the offender. Think about it momentarily.

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Student said on Tuesday, Dec 3 at 7:04 PM

I pray for all of my brothers and sisters that we can get closer to God. Spirituality is a deep topic and the journey is long, too much to say here. Many Bible passages were quoted here but what was not mentioned and is 100% relevant in this case is Romans 13 which instructs Christians to obey the Governing authorities which includes that we must obey the Laws of our Country. If it is against the Law for an adult to have sex with a child of less than 16 years old then people should obey that Law. If not they should be prosecuted and punished. Don't break the Law people! We need to teach our children this! There should be mandatory basic Law classes in Secondary School. Too many people are not aware of the basic Laws of our Country. Hope this helps!

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A Christian Who Prays Every Day Before I Leave My Bed!!! said on Monday, Dec 2 at 1:56 AM

This so-called "man" is an animal who doesn't deserve any forgiveness from anyone except God! No child should expect this beast to molest them & then have her/his neighbors forgive him because he is mentally disturbed, insane or not of his right mind!!!! He should be hung out to dry by his peers & then have people say prayers for him on his way to HELL!!! Forgive him! - NO WAY!!!

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revelations! said on Saturday, Nov 23 at 3:32 PM

I agree with annonymous comments! There were others who saw it & did nothing. I refer again to this child parents & her father who has not said a peep about this situation. There is more to this story, but they can keep their secret cause it is what cause this breakdown in our society.

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Nov 19 at 9:35 PM

dident parents members and the pastors wife notice the closeness between the two to stop it before it got is far.some body liked what was going on other than the pastor and the girl

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Anonymous said on Saturday, Nov 16 at 10:10 AM

sorry with the member girlfriend what a shame there need to demote this rey straight out

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Anonymous said on Friday, Nov 15 at 5:02 PM

please Get your story straight, it was not with an elder.

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Nov 13 at 8:32 PM

he is not the only one he just got caught

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haha said on Monday, Nov 11 at 12:31 PM

they say it take a village to raise a child but things change now It takes a school girl to "Raise" a Pastor real hard.

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Amen. said on Saturday, Nov 9 at 1:02 AM

Well, well disgusted! Since you feel so strongly about this, can I suggest that you take up more of an interest in helping this child who might be wild according to you! No one thinks pastor should get away but the little wilding home needs some help and maybe you can volunter some help since you are so disgusted. 14yrs old in the 21st century no longer want to be a child nor do they wish to be treated like one. However, they model after their parents and what goes on in their home has a serious impact on them. Check out the home, there is much dysfunction that Mrs. Disgusted is not seeing in the story.

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QuiteNice said on Wednesday, Nov 6 at 10:47 AM

But God commended his love towards us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Christ wishes that not of us should perish but that all of us should come to repentance.

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Disgusted said on Wednesday, Nov 6 at 7:30 AM

I am thoroughly disgusted at the comments quoting "He who is without sin..." and showing sympathy and support for this pastor. This is exactly what is wrong with this country; the lack of Personal Responsibility and Accountability. I do not care how broken the child's home was or where the child's father or even how wild the 14 y/o child may have been; the fact remains that this was a CHILD and the pastor is an adult, who knows what is right and wrong and IS responsible for his own actions! The tendency for Tobagonians to throw up their hands and say, "This does happen all the time." is unacceptable. We, as a community, must stand up for the children when no one else will. I pray for the children that are being used and abused. See the scandals of the Catholic church around the world? This is one trend that T&T need not follow. Praying for our nation.

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Nov 5 at 11:43 PM

Tobagonians, let us pray for one another and for the lord to continue to bless our country. We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God. Who is without sin, cast the first stone.Let us love one another as Christ commanded us to do. Satan wants us to fight and hate one another,please do not let him win. Let us pray for spiritual strength so that we can all overcome our weaknesses as human beings. Do not forget that even Jesus was tempted by satan. It is a spiritual battle between satan and God's people,so let us not make satan tempt us to judge other people,but to pray for them when they fall. God bless you all and have a spirit-filled day!

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Shocked!!!!! said on Tuesday, Nov 5 at 1:13 PM

Wow!!!!we let too many things slide under the rug, but my question is, did any of the church members in the victims' church observe anything? why didn't they say something as well? so much goes unsaid and it pains my heart to know that people see and knew and don't say anything. Sad! Sad! Sad! My guess would tell me to question some of the other members and men in that specific congregation more might come out

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Sweets said on Monday, Nov 4 at 2:55 PM

Anybody know what is latest about Marlon Holder?

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oh really! said on Sunday, Nov 3 at 3:51 PM

Folks in Tobago are such hypocrites! They know how to quote the bible well. They know book and don't know chapter cause they certainly don't live like they quote. They always know who sleeping with who & yet still they allow demonic things to happen thengossip about it. Form groups so that people can healand have them make laws so they can serve prison tim.. do something other than just talk and quote the bible.

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Anonymous said on Friday, Nov 1 at 12:32 PM

1 Corinthians 15:54-58 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?" The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.

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Kim said on Friday, Nov 1 at 12:29 PM

God loves all of us, despite our differences. For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up.

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Jerry said on Friday, Nov 1 at 12:28 PM

Luke 18:35-43 As Jesus approached Jericho, a blind man was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard the crowd going by, he asked what was happening. They told him, "Jesus of Nazareth is passing by." He called out, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!" Those who led the way rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!" Jesus stopped and ordered the man to be brought to him. When he came near, Jesus asked him, "What do you want me to do for you?" "Lord, I want to see," he replied. Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus, praising God. When all the people saw it, they also praised God.

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Harold said on Friday, Nov 1 at 7:59 AM

Mark 4:30-34 Again he said, "What shall we say the kingdom of God is like, or what parable shall we use to describe it? It is like a mustard seed, which is the smallest seed you plant in the ground. Yet when planted, it grows and becomes the largest of all garden plants, with such big branches that the birds of the air can perch in its shade." With many similar parables Jesus spoke the word to them, as much as they could understand. He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.

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Anina said on Friday, Nov 1 at 7:53 AM

If there be any virtue; lets think on what is good and positive for a healthy. Negative thinking can make us ill. Lets try and remain healthy.

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John said on Friday, Nov 1 at 7:52 AM

Blessed be this beautiful Island of Tobago. The island that is clean and serene.

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Donna said on Friday, Nov 1 at 7:49 AM

Ps:77:11 I will remember the works of the LORD: surely I will remember thy wonders of old. 12 I will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings. 13 Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God? 14 Thou art the God that doest wonders: thou hast declared thy strength among the people.

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Anonymous said on Friday, Nov 1 at 7:46 AM

Ps 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock. 6 And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD.

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Jer said on Tuesday, Oct 29 at 11:20 AM

If there be any virtue; lets think on what is good and positive for a healthy. Negative thinking can make us ill. Lets try and remain healthy.

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Anon said on Saturday, Oct 19 at 4:13 PM

Not only thieves....trying to rob poor people but rapists....God alone knows what other things they are covering up.

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Anonymous said on Friday, Oct 11 at 6:23 AM

An public education component is needed to deal with this problem in Tobago.

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revelations. said on Monday, Oct 7 at 1:46 AM

I wish you all would give this much attention to the real victims in homes where the fathers sleep with their daughter and the mother covers up for the man. There si more 2 the story than the pastor and that's the truth. The pastor will get what he deserves and so would all the people who thought it necessary to push it under the rug, like the victims parents. What they all need 2 do is search their hearts cause something else wrong with this story. I know that what's in the dark will eventually come out to light.

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Oct 2 at 5:39 PM

if you want to destroy the morals of a country,lets raise our hands in worship for the foolish comment below.why not let our heads be annointed with oil,by this pastor.why not let him bless us and baptise our children.why not let him represent tobago in the churches abroad,why not put him in charge of our children institutions.afterall we should not cast stones,for we all have sins.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Sep 30 at 11:05 AM

Hey the pastor is wrong. No dispute about that but if all our secrets sins were to be exposed some of us are worst off than this pastor. This issue was only exposed when the mother found out. She acted out of anger to the situation. Why is there no report of the young lady complaining to her mom. In my experience when a child is being violated they are very apprehensive of the abuser. She wouldn't want to return to his sessions. As much as the pastor is to be blamed and punished, I believe all the parties deserved to be looked at. 14 year olds are not as naïve as earlier times they know exactly what they're doing some of them have their little crushes on far older men. So ppm stop pointing fingers let's just pray for the parties involved

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revelation. said on Monday, Sep 23 at 8:36 PM

Whoever the cap fit let them where it. It takes a village to raise a child but this one wanted to grow up way to fast, the pastor is wrong and so are the rest of the demonic players who not saying anything cause its a tribal thing and this kid home is dysfunctional and the father of this young lady needs to say something fast.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Sep 23 at 10:15 AM

He who is without sin cast the first stone. If God was to reveal some of us sins we would run in the bushes and hide. Before we pray for both the victim and the accuser to repent of their sins, we are quick to gossip. And for the woman who is pretending to be on the mother's side, I hope you repent too because you also had a relationship with the Pastor, everybody knows

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Princess said on Monday, Sep 23 at 1:24 AM

Salut, i'm very sadden by the sexualité in our country. It's 6 yrs nw i watch my country contaries toward women & men,boys & girls. Listen carefully to d lyrics of si ca.. Wine.meaning sex so stop carnival B4 More children do It.Wine wine wine is d culture of sexuality and fête so iz that Thinking but future. One Night stand & company?????

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Revelations. said on Monday, Sep 16 at 11:18 PM

Where is the victims FATHER! Does she have one present in her life. Something missing in this story. Not saying the Pastor should not be punished but this Mother, I have some mixed feelings about. There is more to this story here and the mother knew what was taking place long time as this is what goes on in these seceretive places. Taboo is Tobago!

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Sep 4 at 11:56 AM

Why u ppl so foolish dis kind of conduct is goin on in all chuches everywhere not only in the sda church.step up

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Sep 3 at 9:16 AM

you know I have read all the comments about the pastor needing help and counseling,, not once I read about the victims, the little girls who has to live with the disdain and have their lives disrupted. What about counseling for them? The pastor is the criminal in this whole scenario so in my book No Mercy for him, he made that choice to defile the girl children so I have no sympathy for him and he is a common criminal! Let us focus on those girls that was defiled and please remember is no longer a shame to SDA churches because its been happening for so long now, its more like a norm....May God help us!

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Anonymous said on Monday, Sep 2 at 5:09 PM

Canuck your kind of thinking is whats destroying this world Today.telling people that they should not be responsible,we are suppose to be each others keepers.women should keep their legs closed and men their willy in their pants.one of the most religious country in the world,which laws that women must wear an abode from head to toe is prostituting their women beacuse of poverty,so its not the clothing thats the problem,the fact that you people insist on using elementary convictions to justify inhumane acts is mind blowing.

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Canuck said on Friday, Aug 30 at 11:24 PM

I took a photo of a young girl & asked my friends in Canada how old do you think she is. One man said 17 & a younger man said 13. She was absolutely posed as a "sexy" kitten --- however, this gel is 9!!!!!!!!!~!!!!!! Who is the problem here? In my humble opinion, it's her mother because that who this little girl is copying! Wake up Tobago women! Trying to always look sexy is how y'all get into real problems! For you & all the children that you have. At times, from different fathers! Fight back! Get educated & keep your legs crossed!!!

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 27 at 2:41 PM

this was send to me by inside source ok long before my daughter joind the faith it was happen but there kept it hush there knew about holder long time but kept sending him from didstrict to distrcit and yes by daughter is ok the trail has not started

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 27 at 11:18 AM

This is sad. So what is happening now? Has the trial started? How is your daughter holding up?

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Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 26 at 1:49 PM

she told me at d time she cudnt handle hislop as he was her dean n vp but she had holder transferred out of d school later wen she left d school hislop was actin as principal n he was caught red handed molestin another school child n he was forced to resign by dat time i had left d religion n did not follow up on dem buh i had been gettin reports that holder got into another sex scandal in roxboro n was transferred to signal hill

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 25 at 1:19 PM

To the lady who seems to be the victim's mum, I'm truly sorry for your daughter's hurt. It seems the church admitted that the Pastor was involved in this behavior, judging from what the minister was quoted to have said. I read that the accused was supposed to return to court on August 20th, what, may I ask, is the status of the matter now? When will the case be heard?

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Anonymous said on Saturday, Aug 24 at 7:46 PM

this is a open letter to all members of my daughter church why i am asking my self why is she been tageted she are the victim but yet some of you all who use to be greetin her stop watching her upside down in the house of god but why

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Anonymous said on Saturday, Aug 24 at 1:59 PM

when jesus stod with barabbas and the king,the king said who should we set free jesus our barabas,the people shouted cricify jesus and let barabas go,now the sda is the people,who is more than willingly to crucify the christ.and to make matters worse its the money from private citizens thats keeping them afloat.Tobagoninas needs to be more responsible in what they are supporting.

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Anonymous said on Friday, Aug 23 at 7:39 PM

it not a matter of kids is a matter this child was rape

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Anonymous said on Friday, Aug 23 at 7:39 PM

kids not innocent hush up

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Just saying said on Friday, Aug 23 at 1:28 PM

My wife was at a clinic when three 13-14 year old girls came in giggling and while walking out with condoms chuckled among themselves which boys to seduce... I guess we have to look at both sides of the coin today before we want to point any fingers. kids today are not as innocent anymore as we would like to believe.

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3 2 1 ? said on Friday, Aug 23 at 8:19 AM

I look at some of these contributions and I have realize how some Tobagonians thirst for gossip and baccanal, your inflammatory criticism of the Church...., oh my! Its like you were waiting for an event like this. Hope the family of the child are not reading your comments. Have a good day Tobago and please dont stop what you are best at.

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Anonymous said on Thursday, Aug 22 at 6:24 PM

Well mouth say the other child molester goes to Bethel Church, he is a sneeky brown skin guy hahayoh

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 20 at 6:24 PM

People came out to support him? wow. No need for that attitude with me though. I'm just an observer who does not at all support any such behavior.

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 20 at 2:23 PM

go ask the sda ppl who came out to support him nasty ppl god dont sleep

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 20 at 2:02 PM

Any update on this matter? News had said he should reappear today.

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 20 at 12:20 PM

shame shame shame on d sda ppl i hold u all soul responsible of wat happen to this child because this pastor was doing his act long time ago and u al cover it up

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TobagoYankee said on Monday, Aug 19 at 12:59 PM

What ah shame !!!! someone please help this child.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 19 at 6:16 AM

legal action should be taken against the church by these parents. To make sure that these types of thing are dealt with in the correct way.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 19 at 6:12 AM

After reading some of these comments I seriously believe that Tobago New should shot down the comment section of this online newspapers. It is so, so sad what some of you people have in your minds. Young lives were destroyed by the actions of this individual and we quick to quote, "let he who is without sin." If so, then no criminal should be jailed because we all have done some form of wrong in our lives. Sad, sad, sad.

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Justice said on Saturday, Aug 17 at 12:15 PM

Never mind quoting the bible!!! This person is a hardened criminal who has been preying on children for many years & should be put in chains & thrown in the nearest jail. Let's see how justice works there!! Amen.

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Goianintown said on Saturday, Aug 17 at 3:48 AM

The SDA organization should be hold accountable for there action in this matter since as they had new the behavior of this Pastor for awhile but did nothing, only try to conceal it and move him to another district to commit his sick act against another innocent young girl. We all here pelting stone at young girl whether she had consented or not its rape because she is under age of 16. The Pastor is the adult and if his desires is to play around in the church he should of done so with the adult in the church not a child. I hope they through the book at him let him go in prison and preach the word and change life's.

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Anonymous said on Thursday, Aug 15 at 10:45 PM

Regardless of how many bible verses you folks quote ,the best revenge is naming and shaming these vile pedophiles. Time is so much longer than twine and as the years go by the revenge gets sweeter. In this computerized era the possibilities are endless. When these perverts get a new life , a new wife , a new job ,move to a different country the truth has the power to follow them. Yes man, time is really longer that twine. Look how many years past and I still could talk about fast tail Chin Aleong . HA HA HA HA.

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bingo said on Thursday, Aug 15 at 1:37 PM

Oh! so all fingers are pointed to the "Pastor", yes he was wrong, weather he did or did not have an intimate activity with the girl/s, he should have conducted himself in a more responsible manner, ok. BUT there is a Child Molester who goes to a Prominent SDA church in West Tobago, and is a big time medical professional, and gets involved in several big Organizations to cover his dirty linen, the last was a child from the SDA school at Rockley Vale, that too became a police matter but sad sad sad to say mouth say he pay off the parents to drop the matter. so the girl among others continues to be exposed to these perpetrators.what you say, he working TRHA/TEMS.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 12 at 4:11 PM

so the parents of this pastor turn to the obeah man now to set there son free what a shame but ppl remember god is over every one of us this is god child there playing with and u cal yourself sda

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Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 12 at 10:20 AM

we live in a society where at times we have no other choice but to trust each other,its the reality of our existance,but when that reality has beign tampered with we must act.EVEN IF WE ARE ONLY TO BE CONSIDERED HUMANS WHO FALTER.Truth must be the prevailing intention and factor of our beign ,this reduces mens flatering,its lies and selfish desires thats destroying us.not our humanity.

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simplelkeba said on Monday, Aug 12 at 9:33 AM

all of a sudden everyone knows the most scriptures....even if this guy is a pastor at the end of the day he is only human and can falter....some mothers are too trusting of males around their young children these days u don't know who is who u may see a man's face but not their heart a man can claim to be anything...can we hold him at his word? The only thing that bothers me as far as religion goes is that the SDA'S are always acting prissy and perfect as though they are better than all other religions...and I seriously beg to differ

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Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 12 at 2:12 AM

You do not understand the ramification of keeping this particular church open.We are talking about aplace whereby people go to worship and give praise to GOD ,A plae that is suppose to represent holiness.So beign the case we must standup and serve GOD,not our own selfs.Are we to love this church more than GOD himself.You cannot compare secular individuals with people who claims to be doing GODS work.THE key word GODS WORK.If we root out one evil then we have a chance of saving many other churches,because they all understand that we as TObagoninas would not accept GODS name beign taken in vain,key word GODS NAME.Jesus sacrificed his life to safe others,we must now follow suit and sacrifice this church for the saving of other churches.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 4:12 PM

All i am saying is to let the courts deal with the individual. I have a who was molested by his school friend's mother when he was a teenager. I guess, so its not only men, but women also, right their in Tobago. Seems to me that the island needs a purge.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 3:45 PM

so you are saying a pastor did wrong close the church building down. You, whether you worship at home or elsewhere, if you are a follower of Christ , you are part of his church here on earth. It is not the building. If I went to worship in that building and they close it down because some pastor did wrong, I will just go worship in another building next door. If the high school principal was involved with the student will you close the school, or will you ask for another principal. Schools should be nurturing the youth also. Really, think of what you are saying. If you should close every institution where a leader had sex with a minor, there will be no institutions left anywhere. At the same time its a shame that men are so evil as to prey on minors.

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cont. said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 3:22 PM

I not only believe in GOD ,i know that GOD existance is alive and real in every sense of the way,and i do not go to a church to tell me whats written in the bible,i read it myself and seek guidance from the author personally.I speak often about GOD to my family and i read the word with them,in no way does GOD see me as lest becauseci dont go to a church,when the mind is trapped in a certain everyday life style its difficult to want and see different opportunities.Exactly which church building was christ registered under none,only him teaching his dicisple who were as we all know 12.Is it not the same jesus you so avidly describe as jesus.The young people would come to GOD when we all take our responsibilities,not a building.The church is unfortunately becomming more an enemy of GOD,fallen into darkness,what exactly are you people defending,Iwould always believe that a place for youths ,this building must forever represent what we do not want in a church,so close it down.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 3:14 PM

I am not angry,i am only saying that this one church should represent an exple of what we are willing to accept in our society and that we stand with our youths and not a building.A church building could never represent christ,its we the people who represent jesus christ.Some of the most devilish act are done by the same pastors who are to cliche represent GOd.God expect us to stream towrds Good.And thsi church in particular does not represent Good.They have made themselves prophets who are leading people astray for profit and gain and position of respect in society which they have abused.No profet stayed in a conveint church preaching the gospel,but know they have made the church a bed of comfort to themselves and it must stop.They lavish themselves in deception crucifying the same christ who they preachIf we continue to allow thisthe goodliness of what a building is suppose tp representwould keep on beign a place of shameful breeders.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 1:24 PM

Anonymous you cannot close down a church. The church is all the people who believe in Jesus. That's the anger speaking and understandably so. You may take away the building, but the church will just meet somewhere else. That is like saying if the prime minister steal, shut down the country. As long as mankind is in charge of business there will be those who do good , and those who do evil, and even those who choose to do good, God said there is none good, no not one! So you just cannot punish the innocent with the guilty. You know what the bible says, the wheat and the tares will grow until the harvest, but that harvest is not yet, not till Jesus thrust in that sickle at the end of time. Satan is trying us, and he wants nothing more than for us to stop following Jesus and so get rid of the church. But God has a plan. Be angry, but remember His servant Job. God understands how much you are hurting, abide in him and seek his comfort and his peace. God bless you!

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 9:06 AM

Know this that we are all children of God SENT FOr the purpose to keep alive the santity of all that is holy poor and true.We are all here to say that GOD is alive and well,to make his existance truth and not a lie.Then we must read the word as a family,you dont need a church for that,we must debate the work,we can create our own home base bible studies.WE need to beleive in who GOD says tha we are.prophets,all of us,in the kingdom of God we are all equal,just as the pastor reads and understands the word of GOD according to his interpretation ,so can both you and i.We are all life ressurrection from all that gives death within our soul.GOD has said that he has created us in his image ,we have to seek it out and beleive it.their are those who seek out thier African roots,I say its time we seek out the roots of who we are as children of GOD,for its the latter that would save our communities and country.God SAID THAT HEAVEN and earth are one in his name,lets beleive it and act accordinly.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 8:40 AM

Thou shall not take the lords name and make it vain,when organisations,who is suppose to represent the word of God and share the gospel,these actions are to be dealth with seriously.and a message must be sent to all churches that these acts would not be accepted if you want to hold church in our communities.To let this slide is to allow an invasion of godlessness and acceptance to an intolerable behaviour amoung churches nationwide.ITS time the churches stop making excuses and people excuses for them.We have many people who refuses to enter churches because of the hypocritical element behind the seans.To allow this church to continue,we are sending an example to our youths thats not good our positive in anyway.We have to make a loud shout and let this church close down for the sake of all.You cannot sleep with demons and expect them to leave.WE must choose life,we must say no to these actions.we must not allow ugliness to raise its head.Are we children of God or of the devil.

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bago voice said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 8:28 AM

(cont) is guilty of an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine of fifteen thousand dollars ($15 000) or to imprisonment for a term of seven (7) years or to both fine and imprisonment.”

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bago voice said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 8:24 AM

Persons who fail to report a sexual offence of a minor could be charged, fined and or imprisoned,” according to the Sexual Offences Act 2000. Chapter 11:28 Sub-section 31 of the Sexual Offences law states: (1) “Any person who – (a) is the parent or guardian of a minor, (b) has the actual custody, charge or control of a minor, (c) has the temporary custody, care, charge or control of a minor for a special purpose, as his attendant, employer or teacher, or in any other capacity, or (d) is a medical practitioner, or a registered nurse or a midwife, and has performed a medical examination in respect of a minor, and who has reasonable grounds for believing that a sexual offence has been committed in respect of that minor, shall report the grounds of his belief to a police officer as soon as reasonably practicable. (2) Any person who without reasonable excuse fails to comply with the legal requirements of subsection (1), is guilty of an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine..

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Magars said on Sunday, Aug 11 at 4:18 AM

It takes a very long time for victims to come forward and name these perpetrators,and when they do,it should be dealt with speedily by the relevant authority's.And why is the church trying to transfer this sick individual,who preys on young victims. They should also be held accountable for keeping it from the police. Be strong my dear, and u did the right thing,hope justice comes your way

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Anonymous said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 9:31 PM

I don't support what the Pastor did, however all who commented wanting to cast the first stone clearly are persons who know nothing about the kingdom of God. Furthermore I'm happy that they're not God. Moreover, I'd like for all the religion-bashers to recall the fact that in our paradise island a great number of the population are SDA.

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karen said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 4:17 PM

i am a member of the accused i am so ashame my family has gone to the obeah man for help

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Anonymous said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 4:13 PM

thank you babagal so much

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Bagagal said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 1:30 PM

Anonymous, I know what you and your family are going through because I have been through it, yes right there in Tobago. You will be angry, hurt, ashamed, you will want justice, revenge, and go through a whole lot of emotions. Your daughter is most important here. Just love her, be strong for her, focus on getting her through this. Pray, pray, pray. People will eventually stop talking and your daughter has to move on with her life. Let the justice system take it's course while you focus on getting your daughter to move towards the brilliant future that awaits. Looking back will just hold her back. Let not vengeance for him or the church consume you, that will be a stumbling block in your path.....Romans 12:19 says, Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written,"Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord." May God grant you the strength and the wisdom to deal with this, knowing that he will carry you through the most difficult storms of life.

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Bagogal said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 1:06 PM

The Church is as a hospital for sin sick souls, and the members , sinners who accept the blood of Jesus Christ that was shed for our sins. We surrounded our sister with love and support. We made sure she got an education. We continued in our roles at church because it's Gods church. The pastor continued in his role as pastor and his wife who was an RN had her own litany of problems. My Sis today, is happy, well adjusted and married. I do not know where this pastor is but he has never apologized, but we have forgiven him so that we can move on with our lives. This should never happen to any one. Our actions really does put a stumbling block in the role of the church in the community. I agree that this is not only a church problem, but a community problem and a loud cry should be made about it...wherever and whenever it happens. Keep praying for this family and the pastor and his family. Pray for the community... That men and women and children will surrender their lives to Jesus Christ

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Bagogal said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 12:30 PM

I an SDA, member since 1970, so is my mother and sisters. My sister was raped by an SDA minister when she was 14yrs old. We found out months later because she eventually confided in her best friend. We were dissatisfied with the way the administration dealt with the situation. Th add insult to injury the Minister showed up and preached at the church in Trinidad where I was a member. He was moved from district to district because.of his behavior with young women. Was I angry? Sure I was. I wanted to take matters into my own hands. My mom was in serious pain. My Sis talked in her sleep of how ashamed she was. I even blamed myself for not being there to protect my baby sister. We knew it was not our fault but that is how the process works. We certainly did not blame the church or wish the church gone because we knew that the church is God's institution, not man's, and that the devil is seeking to destroy the church.

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Edge said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 10:56 AM

and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.Isaiah 55, 6-12

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Edge said on Saturday, Aug 10 at 10:53 AM

6 Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. 12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing,

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In tobago said on Thursday, Aug 8 at 7:02 AM

Sorry, to hear that, your daughter has nothing to be ashamed of. But my guess is that she lost all her trust in this society, as well as in you, mom. Church is not a place of saints, look at all the abuse worldwide by Catholic Preachers and Pastors. And thats not only d catolick ones..... Your daughter needs professional counseling. Guidance

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Aug 7 at 12:39 PM

please people u all have no idea what me and my family are going through at his time all the negative comments about my child put youself in my shoes what will u be thinking otherwise my daughter has to walk through her villages and ppl pointing at her saying she is d girl with d pastor thing look wat this man put us through i told her she is not to be blame he has to walk in shame she is a real mess very depress i need u to stop please

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Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 5 at 6:27 PM

RJ,jesus pointed out judas as a betrayer,infront of all the diciples.judas got jesus crucified and killed.so the church should also be crucified and cease to exist.judas hanged himself,what should this pastor do,you people need to becarefulhow you use the word of GOD and in which context.jesus did not act as a coward in the presense of judas ,why did the church act as cowards,do they not trust GOD,our are they only concern with the money they are making.what example did the church take in consideration to christ the resurrected.None,even in the case of adam and eve,they both paid a price,so should the church.they ate of the apple,by beign a disgrace to what holiness of what they preach should represent.

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RJ said on Monday, Aug 5 at 12:49 PM

The wheat and the Tears, shall grow together until the time of harvest. The church is not responsible for the errors of this man. As adults we are all accountable for our actions, we know wrong from right. We are free to exercise that choice. Will you blame Jesus for Judas Iscariot's action??

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 4 at 9:16 PM

Sandra D at what point did this pastor stand up infront of his congregation and ask for forgiveness,for his actions,none,but he kept misleading them to beleive that he was serving them and GOD,what malicious hypocricy,when did the head of the churches ask the congregation for forgiveness of the action of this young pastor ,never they ,just hid it,ND KEPT MISLEADING THE PEOPLE THAT they are the chosen ones of GOD.their is no excuse for what happened at this church and i strongly beleive that an example must be set,by dismissing this church completely and making it some kind of positive organisation for the youths,let it be a memory for all churches to know,the consequences of false action in our society.This was not a mistake,but a deliberate act.Once yes ,twice maybe,three times then we are clasified fools.every action and decisiontaken by these people disqualify them to lead a congregation and be stewards for GOD,let them go and find their true calling.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 4 at 9:05 PM

Edge as a young girl,the one thing i loved doing was after playing basket-ball in the night to sit in scarborough and watch peoplecome off the boat eat a doubles and drink coconut water,this momentum fasinated me and gave me a satisfied feeling to end my what i call a perfect day,thats late in the night,according to what you have written,this is something you object too,because as you say inappropiate time,but was i hurting anyone no,i am living my life and enjoying every moment,but you cast judgement.I loved waking up 4,5 in the morning going running down to the courts,puting on the lights and playing ball all by myself ,this is an exceptional freedom and safety i felt as a child growing up in Tobago,Tobago is blessed,am i also to be judge for that.Does my hours out deam me to be molested by any man,what atradegy if you beleive so.you quote the bible,but in the same breath take away the freedom to enjoy life which is granted to us by God.based on silly theories.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 4 at 8:52 PM

YES,we can go on and on about this topic,but the facts are in every position and roll taken a greate amount of responsibility is expected of every individual,unfortunately we live in a society that is not perfect.Before i continue their,i want to say tha this blasting away on the way young girls dresses,beign and aid in men immorality to take advantage of these impressionable ages is not in any sense valid,but spoken by one who is robotically brain washed.Should women who wear bikinis on the beaches our carnival costumes and jirating dances be the cause of women beign taken advantaged of,what about the women in indian,pakistan who are decently dressed and still raped.The facts still remains that we must hold adults responsible for their actions and expect from our society a save haven for our youths.Yes even adults have problems and can faulter,but their are adult women who they can prey on.Yes God IS THE JUDGE OF ALL MEN,BUT WE ARE STEWARDS who are to protect and serve our community,

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Will Anderson said on Sunday, Aug 4 at 7:46 PM

Scripture tells us that every single person who knew about this and kept silent or tried to hide it is just as responsible as the rapist himself. They would ALL be stoned together. These leaders are sick and are going to face judgement for their actions. When a leader commits a crime they must be exposed.

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Sandra D said on Saturday, Aug 3 at 4:14 PM

@ Anonymous Circumstances make ppl do things whether you or I like it or no we always deal with the majority and never the minority.U seem to be very educated know all the right things to say and do and what is expected and who should pay an all the GREAT stuff,excellent it sounds good to the listening ear and looks good on paper get REAL!!! THERE ARE THINGS THAT WENT WRONG HERE THAT CAUSED THIS MESS.At the end of the day God is goin to judge everyman accordingly and that is it!!

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Edge said on Saturday, Aug 3 at 6:20 AM

PROVERBS 6:16-19 16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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Edge said on Saturday, Aug 3 at 6:16 AM

This is my final comment. This topic isn't going anywhere. PROVERBS 3:1-8; My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: 2 For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee.3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart: 4 So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man. 5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil. 8 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones

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Edge said on Saturday, Aug 3 at 5:46 AM

Anonymous you need to take your time and read people comments CAREFULLY and STOP BEING ARROGANT. This is way beyound men and pastors I am sure you did not see anything in my comment about DADDY ISUSES. And if you are honest. With yourself parents and the society must be blamed for our children goin astray look. Around today our girl children are out all hour of the nite wearing nothing and we sit on. Oour asses and do nothing we are no longer our brothers keeper this topic can go on for forever and no solution because we are not taking the responsibility set for us by the Lord to bring up our children in FEAR and ADDMONISION of the LORD too many of our young girls are fallen prey to these men. I saw a 15 year old wit 2 kids the. Mother said is she like man let she take what man gives now you tell me who. Is to be blamed here the mother the child or the man. Women let us get off our high horses and save our children and stop there are demons out there all men and bad SAVE OUR CHILDREN

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Uriah the Butler said on Saturday, Aug 3 at 12:05 AM

Secretary Duke, never seem to have any answers for the public. She is near deaf in both ears and have no sense of her responsibility. She is simply along for the ride enjoying all the priviledges of a government post. It is time for her to be replaced by someone who will put the people first.

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cont. said on Friday, Aug 2 at 11:19 PM

Feelings ,emotions and sex are not things spoken about in the Tobago family homes,its considered Taboo.But these feelings and insecurity are real in these teens lifes,and their could never and should never be any excuses for these men our anyone to use daddy excuses to undermine our youths.leave that stupidity for the white psychologist.The society are creating criminals,by dismantleing parenthood for money and we in turn do the same thing to each other.Their is so many things to say about this topic,but the most important ,is that society needs to let adults know that they are our childrens keepers and they must take resposibility as adults and we need to stop making excuses for them.

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Anonymous said on Friday, Aug 2 at 11:08 PM

Put a brakes on it edge,so all the young girls who never had a father and prefers men in their age,daddy issues past by them,all the young men without fathers daddy issues past by them,stop making excuses for older men who prey on the innocence of our young children,because thats exactly whats going on.They use their experience to to sing love songs to teenagers who feels flattered and drop their guard in mant instances,teenagers in the carribbean especially are taught from young to respect ,honour adults,with that can come misguided admiration and naiveness.older men can seem wiser to some teens and can easily become preys.When these feelings ,which are too adult for these teens ,they have noone to explain it to them,nor have they any understanding of what to do with these feelings,they cannot and do not feel comfortable,sharing these emotions with their parents,so what do they do ,some give give way to it,while some suffer in silence.

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Edge said on Friday, Aug 2 at 3:42 PM

Sandra I do understand where you are coming from society has broken all morals rules and regulation so many teenage prenancy broken homes young girl are seeking love from men dey know nothing about and these men in return take advantage of them oh my .what a shame and we as parents have to be blamed we don't teach our children about God and how to value themselves we allow them to do what they want how they want sometimes we are not even there some of our children are known as barrel children. This is very serious we need to start listening to our children pay attention to them notice there different bahavior patterns we know our children wen they lie we knw wen they are hurtin we but we have turned a blind eye to our children. And only open it when its too late come on mothers God put us here for a reason we have to wake up from our slumber and and make the difference in our society no need to sleep anymore we are losing to children to all the evil this world have to offer.

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bago eyes said on Friday, Aug 2 at 12:57 PM

o please sandra d.....u need therapy asap!!!

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Sandra D said on Friday, Aug 2 at 7:59 AM

@Anonymous I hear and understand everything that you are saying what you saying I am not trying to condone what has happened to this young girl IT WAS WRONG IT IS WRONG!!All I am simply asking is if anyone has ever looked at the other side to see what was lacking in the child's life or bringing up that contributed to her being exploited.I AM NOT SAYING THAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS RIGHT IT INDEED WAS ABUSE,and I ask the question again did anyone or has anyone tried to find out if there were Daddy issues involved?

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Anonymous said on Thursday, Aug 1 at 5:33 PM

Sandra D i bleed with pity for you,you were raped and even as an adult you still are cluless,he raped your innocence,and understanding of love,he never loved you,he was selfish and taught only about himself,he was suppose to guide and protect your emotions,he was suppose to value you enough to wait until youwere at the right age to understand what you were feeling,instead he taught you how to be irresponsible with your emotions,instead of using your emorions for good,look at you Today as an adult you are a wreck in your understanding and stll believes that its okay for adults who ae are suppose to seek quidance and wisdom from to instead ignore their role in society and live selfishly.At what point are you a respecter of women and children our men to play responsible roles for their children.our society is falling apart and you are talking about father issues,we are becomming a godless nations and you seem contented with that,this is a troubling pathway.lwithout love we are perishable.

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Sandra D said on Thursday, Aug 1 at 8:25 AM

@Girl I agree with your statement while we all can judge this man and say all kinds of things about him what happened is indeed distasteful and out of order.In the same breath no one really knows what happened and only ppl who hav been in a similar situation cud advise anybody about anything. I am now 35yrs old I wz in a relationship at age 13 with a 35 year old man he did not force himself on me I believed I loved him it was only when my parents found out that the story changed they wanted me to say that he raped me,it was Nothing of the sort my belief in this situation is that ARE THERE SOME DADDY ISSUES INVOLVED HERE?? just asking??

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Tobago Mother said on Tuesday, Jul 30 at 9:04 AM

If we look to man we will always be disappointed since man always feels that he could offend and God will always forgive. In my experience Church folk have done much worse things assured that they will get forgiveness. Parents must ensure that they protect their children at the same time that they try to teach them about God because the people who say they represent HIM may be really representing themselves.

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caro said on Monday, Jul 29 at 9:12 AM

God is Lord all by himself. It is not inappropriate for the author to expose the sinner yet it is appropriate for the comment exposing the author (sinner) to be removed? Justice, thankfully, comes only from God.

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caro said on Monday, Jul 29 at 9:05 AM

God is Lord all by himself. It is not inappropriate for the author to expose the sinner but it is inappropriate for the comment exposing the author (sinner) to be removed? Justice, thankfully, comes only from God.

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cont. said on Sunday, Jul 28 at 6:40 PM

What if this is a test from GOD to see if we would honour man or GOD,for that is all that he is a man.should we destroy our country for one man,i am tired of men getting up on a pulpit and pretending to be holy,and when they think noone is watching they practice their dirty ways,let them now be remorseful before they contaminate the lifes of our children.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Jul 28 at 6:36 PM

As a citizen and knowing what kind of country i want my chidren to grow up in ,iam a jury and i find him quilty,what God finds him is between him and God.What the courts find him is between the courts and their judgement of how much they respect the lifes of our children.At which point did him our the church show remorse,when they were revealed to the public,wow how remoreful.I believe that he should pay the same penalty of any ordinary citizen remorseful our not.believe me i do pray,my actions is a reflection of my prayer and i am passing my mouth against an action,which i consider offensive to our society and children,thats my democratic rights,its not a judegement,when that which is expressed is truth,how can truth be a judgement.Truth leads us closer toGOD ,to hear his voice and to seek his close counsel.I pray that no other child has to suffer such abomination and we cannot achieve that if we lightly look upon this case.

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Edge said on Sunday, Jul 28 at 12:50 PM

Cont are you God who are to say that the Pastor is not sorry and remorseful of his actions who are we to jugde you all better start praying for forgiveness of alyuh own sin before passing alyuh mouth on ppl. We have judge and jury to decide whether he is guilty or innocent but God and God alone wiill b his final Judge not u or me let us stop speculating and search our own lives and make sure we r saved.

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cont. said on Sunday, Jul 28 at 10:31 AM

Lets all be DAVIDS and kill every person who we want out of our lifes to marry their spouse,lets all of us as adults have sex with whichever underage child,because we can all make mistakes.why not we all loved still by GOD accepted by him even in our weakness to destroy each other.where should it end,when should we say enough is enough.At what point do we say that we want a society ruled by christ,admitting our sins and weaknesses to each other without condemnation ,but by helping ,supporting and encouraging each other ,be each othets watchdog.why wait until sin rules and takes over our lifes before we seek forgiveness.This mAN IS SORRY HE HAS BEIGN CAUGHT ,NOT FOR THE ACT,THIS CHUIRCH IS SORRY of beign publicly caught ,not for the action.lets fight for our children,lets protect and care for them,lets build back trust and honour in our communities,lets love each others children as if they were our own.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Jul 28 at 10:22 AM

He is condemed because he disrespected an entire country,congregation and trust of a people who are friendly ,open and thrusting.One should not take advantage of goodness ,but should embellish on the riches of GOd to bless a nation not curse it.We depend on each other for our existance,while should we allow anyone to cripple that existance.He is quilty because as children we are taught to respect and obey our elders and he has willfully demean this authority and law given by God.Why should he be allowed to call GOD a liar.Do you know how gullible and innocent some children are in the presense of false love,such a burden place on this innocence,abused and falling into the trap of misplaced affection,such an emotion in an early stage should have beign handle with maturity by this so called man of GOD.If we are not to judge then all crimes against us as a people should be left to GOd,leave the police and the courts out of our society,what is good for the goose is good for all.

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cont. said on Sunday, Jul 28 at 10:12 AM

WE have a right as a people and society to be concerned about the actions of those who takes authority positions of leadership,as adults we have the right to be the voice of sound reason,we have a right to voice ,no shout in union that the moral fiber of our society is beign invaded by acts of ungodly behaviour,by those who are suppose to be godly.If our youths cannot depend on us to protect,care quide and be leaders and good role models,what kind of society are we building,what message are we sending to those who are watching us to become the laws of tommorrow.Are we to continue to strengten the hands of the wicked while they hide behind the pulpit,waiting to attack the innocent.How are our children to feel safe to come forward and feel safe to confine in us as adults,who can they trust and who can they turn to.He is quilty of rubbing our children the rights to feel safe in the presense of an adult and priest who is to be the reasoning voice of God.

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Edge said on Sunday, Jul 28 at 8:11 AM

People let us think this over for a while all you who r mothers out there just sit back for a while and think if this was your son who did this act what would be your response then or even your daughters did this to a little boy. Don't sit on your high horses and judge ppl only God can judge this can happen to anyone. Yes he is a Pastor and also a man David was a king who killed a man for his own wife and yet God called the man of his own heart every one quotes the bible when its necessary for them the Pastor committed and act of indecent amd immoral behavior and it is the rite of the church to offer counseling to the family and the Pastor whether guilty or innocent so don't go passing your mouths on ppl look in we own back yard before we in others. Because it may have more filth. And to the Mission of. SDA you all were slow Pastor should have handed in his resignatoin from the time this was brought to light you need to pull up ur sock. Pray for the persons and stop bashing d Pastor.

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cont. said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 10:38 PM

but the soul,our inner man,he cannot give true joy,peace,rightthinking,here and now,these are the things we can tAKE with us after we leave this body,that power have only one beign and that GOD AND GOD ALONE.My son said to me,sorry mom but all i see is a man who has a jobb and he is no different from anyone else,he is 11yrs.we hear about these things all the time ,why should we care,what does it have to do with us.He does not understand the social effect it has on a society and thats how i view those who justifies this act ,with a slap on the hand.If their is a building in our midst where they are selling coke,we would say break it down,but is it not a religion of people nationwide.Lets use this building for something else which adds true value to our youths,let this be an example to let them know that we care,their are those who are their for them to listen to,to protect,let this be a hallmark for good,that our children know,that we are not just all talk ,but action in meaninful ways.

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CONT. said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 10:28 PM

hE Cleansed and purified himself before he could say abba father.Is that not the duty of a pastor who wishes to walk in his footsteps.Is he not to eat sour before he could taste the sweet,to understand who is the God that he is to serve.Why should we always encourage the world to run ahead of God instead of following and waiting patiently on Gods favour,we have all seen and read about the consequences when we run ahead of God anointing and blessing ourselves.Sara,What would have happened if noah came out of the ark too soon and many such examples.he did not put us on this earth to think as the natural man ,but to think and act as the spiritual man,to make the world a better place for all and to rid it of evil,yet we let robes and worldly riches blindsight us and make excuses to remain enslaved in ungodliness.Even the devil could quote the bible,but is not his understanding limited,for God is the giver of life and the devils understanding of life is all that we can achieve in this world

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Anonymous said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 10:15 PM

It is amazing that so many can quote the bible and yet still have no true understanding of its meaning,truly only the spirit of God can reaveal its true sentiments.you can tell whats in a persons heart by their own interpretation of the bible,i quess this is why God in his wisdom wrote the bible in parables.For by their fruits we shall know them.these people says that we condemn ,because of the quilt and shame that they themselves bare in their hearts,for i am sure that if it happened to their child they would not be so accomodating.They would walk with their haeds in shame seeking justice,to say otherwise is to lie to themselves and that tells you a lot about these people,satans lawyers.Though we were born in sin,we were not created to sin,but to seek truth and the goodness of God.How can we do that if we justify and remain enslaved by we all come short of teh glory of God.Jesus went into the temple and studied the word of God,before he took the roll of preaching,. f

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joy said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 9:23 PM

the cherges was laid indictably he was not cal upon to plead and i wish i was geting the support there are most looking at the family of holder there not even viist us

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...-Looking from the outside-... said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 9:18 PM

And he still plea "not guilty" in the court of law. Don't understand.

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Anonymous said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 9:16 PM

The church authorities must not overstep their authority and try to deal with this type of criminal activity. Criminals must be dealt with by the legal system not by private intervention. Victims must be supported. I hope the family of the victim get the full support from the Church involved and assist them in prosecuting their nasty criminal. In fact Churches should begin recording complaints from people offended in the past. ..... Chin Aleong etc..... eh.

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joy said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 9:12 PM

yes he did

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...-Looking from the outside-... said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 9:02 PM

Joy, are you saying that the Pastor admitted to this scenario????

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joy said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 6:36 PM

i forgive but i will never forget waht his man do to my child ok i knows waht the bible say but he must pay ok this men confess to be asking me he is at our mercy it hurt my family are in a mess

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eyes said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 6:04 PM

Rite now the devil is laughing thinking he has one but God is in control he is the Master the author and finisher of our faith the beginning and the end he knows wat will happen and how it will all end. Anonymous there is sin all alround the world remember God love sinners but hate sin and hence the reason he dies to save us from sin even my dear Pastor.

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eyes said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 5:54 PM

Typical tobagonian and their nine days talk

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counsel said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 5:42 PM

D old ppl say wen ur neighbor house on fire wet ur. And wen you ♓αvƺ glass windows u mus not throw stones. There is power in the name of Jesus to break every chain. Pray we ♓αvƺ to bruise our knees d devil is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Lord I believe in you let the whole world say wat dey may no one can take this joy away Lord I believe. Pastor I forgive you and I hope everyone finds it in their heart to do the same especially the family involved in the incident. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.

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Anonymous said on sat 27.72013. said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 5:21 PM

All church's have sin sin sin sin sin sin sin sin sin sin sin sin sin,

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counsel said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 4:48 PM

Matthew 7:1:-5 Judge not, that ye be not judge. For with what judgemment ye judge, ye shall be judge: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or wilt thou say to thy brother, let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.ppl remember Judas he betrayed Jesus to be Killed. Watch how ah we ah pass ah we mouth pan ppl what ent meet us ent pass us, today for he tommorrow for we a word to the wise is sufficient.Matthew 12:36,37 But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account therefore in the day of judgement.For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

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bago voice said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 4:14 PM

wow shameful you are so pathetic....so what's the criminal offense of shacking with the younger woman by the author of the big sensational story about your pastor?

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counsel said on Saturday, Jul 27 at 4:14 PM

I have read all these comments,my people of Tobago you all need to stop seriously. Jesus died that all may live, we were born in sin and shapen in iniquity. Blasting the Pastor won't change what happen it did happen and we have to live and deal with it. However, God sees it fit to deal with my dear Pastor he will. The Seventh Day Adventist is a world wide church it cannot be closed because some ppl think so a the church is not the building the chuurch is the ppl in the building u̶̲̥̅ may shut downthe building but not the church. Stop wit the critics and Pray, Pray hard and ernestly for the girl and her family and also for the Pastor. Who r we to judge? We lie we cheat we kill we sin everyday sin is sin doh matter how it is committed.Isaiah 43:25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for my own sake, and will remember thy sins. We need to forgive the Pastor for his transgressions, we r not God we can't judge wen we forgive our sins will be forgiven.

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What a shame! said on Friday, Jul 26 at 8:26 PM

The author of this article, Adamson Charles, is no different from the pastor in question. Didn't he leave his family to go shack up with a younger woman. Additionally, he was a principal of a SDA Primary School. He was a man of the cloth. So tell me,you run and write BIG SENSATIONAL story on the pastor. Why the hell you didn't just publish your autobiography?

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NYC Voice said on Friday, Jul 26 at 1:11 PM

You negative and judgmental people seriously need to take a look in the mirror. The only one that knows the exact truth is God him self.

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Seeking Truth said on Friday, Jul 26 at 12:48 PM

Tobago has this problem going back to my time in Signal Hill High School. One said teacher would have sex with the students. I recall one student running to me crying how he tried to molest her and she dont know what to do. Sad Sad the grown married man got his joy from messing with innocent mins. Authorities need to act faster in these situations.

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The Blimp said on Friday, Jul 26 at 10:36 AM

Where my partner ananymous .Morning

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USA Unknown said on Friday, Jul 26 at 9:29 AM

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. May this young girl find the strength to move on and don't fall victim of what has happened to her. I pray that the pastor seek God and change his ways. God has called him to be a spiritual father and not to be the father of these young girls kids or to be a molester. Pray Tobago pray for the bible said if my people which are called by name shall humble themselves and pray and turn from their wicked ways then he will heal their land. A house that's divided cannot stand! We all need to be on one accord and stop condemning religion this can happen to anyone!

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Anonymous said on Friday, Jul 26 at 1:22 AM

The bible did said,that everything in the dark would come to light,and what Tobago thought they were hiding has finally come to the attention of all,oh the greatness and wisdom of GOD.when God speaks the entire world knows it,please Tobago dont wait untill he roars,take heed ,take warning.for Today,you may say it could never happen to my child,and Tomorrow,not only your child,but your grandchild.do not turn a blind eye.GOD is watching ,lets make him proud.

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tobago said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 3:15 PM

Come on people, this is the norm in "tobago" do not bash the lifestyle you all are living. But since we are all bashing this heinous crime the paster replicated from tobago's society; but since we are bashing let us report other people who are doing the same nonsense. Ask Ashworth Jack how the bullet got in his jaw... Ask Mr. Burris how many children he fathered with the little girls he teached in Signal Hill Comprehensive... You see? Tobagoians condone this nonsense in the first place... So do not be pretend to be surprise...

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hmm said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 3:01 PM

Hmmm looks like they tried to cover up this incident like the one they covered up some time recently with the teacher caught having sex with a student in Harmons. Yes he is hu-man and we all have urges but this man is an adult and further more, a pastor; a leader in the community and should have know better or the church should have put a stop to him long time ago instead moving him all over then island. However the people on this forum who are bashing this guy and his religion should ask themselves questions like; why are they not reporting the set of incest happening around them? Why they themselves hidding their family shame? All over tobago is incest and big men sexing little girls and noone is doing anything bout it. Noone making reports cause they are shame or they do not want to look "bad" or they do not want to lose the money their "man" giving them so it is okay for him to "ride" their little daughters.

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Anonymous said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 12:22 PM

Perpetrators often get away because people are not prepared to broadcast their nasty deeds. Therefore, many victims wait until they are older, braver and wiser to go public . Right thinking members of the public must support vctims fully and shame offenders.

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Former Victim said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 10:50 AM

Most of these comments are sickening. Child abuse is rampant in Tobago. We need to deal with the bigger issue! I can't believe that people are blaming the child for this. Many young girls are betrayed by the people who are supposed to protect them. In this case it is a pastor. There are (grand)fathers, brothers, uncles, step-fathers, cousins and even god-brothers to add to the list. Many victims never come forward because of the shame and guilt they feel. Furthermore we live in a society that loves to punish the victim! We need to rise above that and help instead of condemn. These victims grow up with their secrets and these secrets destroy them one way or another. We need to make it safe for them to come forward!

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media watch said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 10:39 AM

bago has been grappling with d problems of child sex abuse and incest for many years now. for too long we have been covering up such nefarious acts committed by fathers, uncles, big brothers, teachers, policemen and yes even pastors. let us spare thoughts for the large number of victims who have been traumatized emotionally and psychologically and had their development stunted. many r living with such scars, which most times r permanent affecting their quality of life n relationships!!

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diedre said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 9:49 AM

some trust in chariots some in horses,but i put my trust in the LORD,not man such as pastor holder to secure my salvation, we seem to forget that men may fall,but you can always count on GOD, I pray that his family especially his wife find comfort in God's word and keep their heads high.

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Child Of God said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 4:31 AM

I feel sorry for what has happened. I don't know the exact details, but anyway you look at it this could never be good. The sad thing about it is, other Pastors would be branded because of this Pastor's wrong doing. Let's just pray for this child, and the Pastor and His family that healing would take place. Oh my, I don't even want to think about how his wife feels. The Pastor will face the consequences for his actions, and well the girl will face the scrutiny of persons who may not know the entire story. It's just sad. I pray that this too shall pass, and others will not be brought down because of this. There are very good pastors out there, who are faithful to their wives and families and they should not be branded because of this. Have a blessed day you all.

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Anonymous said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 2:20 AM

How can anyone say that adults should no be held accontable for their actions.we as adults are suppose to be leaders of good commonsense,a safe haven for our youths,we are to bring up children in the way they should walk so that when they growup they shall not depart from it,for this is right in the eyes of GOD,which bible did this pastor read.we are to be,examples of respect in our community.who cares if it was consentual our deal gone sour.are we to allow adults to degrade our society,what is left of our human dignity,what is left for adult quidance,,we would loose all trust and live constantly in fear for our children.not only our children but as a people,towards each other,when people start forgetting GOD ,thats a terrible thing.when people dont understand the reason and purpose for their lifes on this earth,thats a detrimental sickness.if we turn a blind eye to this sin which is creeping into our society, many of us and our children would cry tears would suffer the consequences.

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legal said on Thursday, Jul 25 at 2:10 AM

for an adult to have sex with a minor under d age of 16 is a criminal offense punishable by the law...no such thing as voluntary on the part of the minor....please take very careful note...and theres no statute limits with sexual offenses...according to the law!!!

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jramdass said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 10:37 PM

I worked with this man for a short time over 10 years ago and he was behaving inappropriately with all the young girls in the workplace. To my astonishment I was told that he was a theology student. I was disgusted at the thought because he did not care to be discrete about his in appropriate behaviour. The church should have reported this a long time ago and then seek to give him counselling because it is a crime, like it or not. I am an SDA and I'm appalled!

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Pointing Finger said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 9:32 PM

I'm sure that many of you 'll are glad to get something negative about the SDA ppl, what about the good that has been done? Every religion has ppl that are not Christ centered hence the sad and perverted act committed against not only young individuals but even women and some males. Don't Put down an entire religion for the acts of a few. Not one of you commenting here belongs to a perfect religion, and if you can blame all SDA for the act of one then it only fair to judge all you all by your belief and the actions of your religious colleagues.

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churchgirl said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 8:12 PM

We all need prays in this sinful world. Pray for the pastor and ask God to let Satan get hence from the church.

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Girl said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 7:32 PM

This happened so long ago, what was the cover up story all these years, that's what I wanna know, some people are saying he used to pay money, and because he stop, they call rape,what's the deal with that, why now, why not as soon as this incident happen

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Girl said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 7:29 PM

I'm totally agree with what your saying, she made a choice, he made a choice when a child reaches the age of 10 they are conscious of what's right from wrong, I'm not literally saying she went voluntarilly, but in some cases these things do happen, let's face reality she was a minor, she knew he was an older guy and he knew she was a minor, they both agreed and engaged in this matter, I'm not judging what he did was wrong, totally if it was me raped at 14 and I didn't want this to happen I wouldve reported it. I'm not judging anyone, who are we to judge, we were not there, only him and she knows what really happen

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Lavern said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 7:18 PM

The person that last post as Girl, if you are not the 14 year old that it happened to you need to stop shooting off your mouth about 'being sure that she went voluntary; and being sure he did not force her'. She was 14, she was not a consenting adult she was a child/teenager he should have known better to walk away even if she pursued him (and I am not saying she did). Stop blaming the victim here.

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Girl said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 7:03 PM

I understand in the eyes of the Law that's a rape charge. This happened so long ago, why is it now he is arrested, she went volontary, you all. Need to wake up and realize that the youths of today are not like the youths of yester years, I'm not judging anyone , what he did was wrong I totally agree, but I think the law should do something about the girls going into these things voluntarilly, it could of happen to anyone he is not the first and surely not the last, all I'm saying is the mom, the church they all knew of this longtime and said nothing,the police need to investigate this case very seriously, because I'm a female, and I'm a youth myself, and I know what we youths are capable of, we have minds of our own, we know what's right and still do wrong, she went voluntary why sid she allow it to happen in the first place, I'm sure he didn't force himself on her, she welcomed the ride, and enjoyed the time she had with. This matter is in the hands of the law. God help us all.

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Bago - Sweeden said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 3:49 PM

Please mothers teach your young girls not to take abuse from anyone not even the Pastor who should have been protecting this child. Shame on the Pastor of that SDA church. What are you teaching these young people today. I now realize what's goes on in the SDA churches and them. This has been happening for years now. Thank God someone speak out. If my people who are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray and turn from their wicked ways...How can this child move forward with her life now which is ruined for life. Again youths leave facebook alone..and parents take charge of your children lives. Facebook take over the world now.....nobody speak to each other nowaday....everyone is in a world by themselves, just texting, communicate has broken down.......

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Man said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 2:54 PM

This so sad but ppl stop being judges cuz we are all humans the real judge will deal with it

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manman said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 2:47 PM

This is just tobago as usual, How many children in tobago dont know who their daddy is, when infact they are living in the house with him as grandfather.

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Batchak said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:47 PM

correction: False

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Batchak said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:36 PM

"...The man of sin is sitting in the holly place" whether it is faults doctrine or Sin on the pulpit ,Churches have become Sodom and Gomorrah "Physical Churches" The one true Church the "Spiritual Church" of which Jesus is the chief priest stands true ethereal !!!...The age of the Physical Churches is over !!!

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big dog said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:23 PM

you anonymous you seem to know alot about this situation. you would have done better to use what you know and make an early intervention into this situation.

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The Blimp said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:18 PM

My GOD! i never se nothing so yet .MR ANANAMUS ,like you know more than the investigators .apparently, like you involved in a simmilar situation ? Dont cover up nastyness .If it was yr daughter you woulda kill him .

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Grant said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:15 PM

Police should arrest anonymous because he sound like he knew about this before this whole thing happen, maybe he was one of the facilitators of this sinful act.

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The Blimp said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:10 PM

My heart cry tears when i hear men ,moreso pasters falling victim to peple who extort money ,and try to make a living off of the weekness of these men .Shame on you .The Bible spoke about Adam and Eve .hmm like eve still alive!

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:07 PM

the pastor was away studying that why he was not arrested ppl get your facts straigtht ok

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 1:04 PM

whoever is big dog put urself in the child's position and telme how wud u feel.a am sure u wont want ur daughter's name scandalsing so is u en no nun anyting hush yuh dam mouth and btw i no where u live and ur name. the mother is not the bad one he is one who molested this poor child. if u were molested how wuh u feel?

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Grant said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 12:58 PM

Yea I support peacemaker something darm fishy about this whole thing

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Peacemaker said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 12:54 PM

You know this whole thing sound funny? After this girl having sex for all these years no one said anything. Why now they want to make it seem as the pastor is the worst man in the world. This is a deal gone sour. The pastor maybe stop giving her money so she squealing to mess up his life, its possible the mother and all was condone their sexual activities. This whole thing needs some clarity. Its sad that it always occurs in a SDA churches.

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big dog said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 12:47 PM

U Anonymous you want to sue us, you crazy! we had nothing to do with what happened to that child in that SDA CHURCH. You should be trying to get justice and help that child recover from this incident rather than try to condone it. if this is your child you should face the law for being a terible mother.

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TheOilBearer said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 12:45 PM

I do believe that the hierarchy dealt with this matter with kids' gloves. While he was receiving counselling, think of the young girls whose lives were being affected. However, let this be a wake up call for all of us. I like the reminder by someone to cast the first stone. Let us ask Jesus to search our hearts and try our minds and if there is any wicked thing in us, help us to overcome by His power. Let's pray for the brother, his wife, the girls and their families and each other.

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 12:26 PM

ok ppl i am the mother of this child i herard i read all of your comments u all aint know what the hell is going ok is only me and my family knows it all but i will not say no more because it is in d police hands of for those of u are accused me saying i knew d good lord will deal with u all but just dont let me get you all real names becuse u will face with a law suit have a blessd day

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Peacemaker said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 11:15 AM

This is a sad day in SDA. But the law is the law. this is a well known Pastor, he is the Gangster Pastor who had some crusade some months prior. Exactly what sort of recruitment were they doing? Certainly not souls for the lord. There shall be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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The Blimp said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 11:05 AM

GASS THEM AND LIGHT THEM !

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big dog said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 11:02 AM

Anonymous did you read the disclaimer on the comment page.

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The Blimp said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 11:02 AM

Ananus is just another one who is covering up the things going on in these sda churches .JAIL THEM ,they playing perfect ,and the nasty like hell!

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 10:46 AM

If the story is falsefied,let the church sue the Tobagonews for damanges.thats their legal right ,so get cracking and stop abusive freedom of the press,if its true that information given was misleading to the public.somehow i doubt it.why would this girl wait until she is 18 to tell her mother,what did the hiearchy of the church do,lets get the facts right.write the truth .

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The Blimp said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 10:30 AM

I think a full scale investigation should launched into child molestation in many of these ,SO CALLED SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCHES .This is unreported in many other SDA churches in Tobago ,and they keeping it hush hush. God have plenty work to do yes!

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Tobago Mother. said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 10:08 AM

and it is not adventists alone who have this problem. Youth groups, civic groups, music and cultural groups. All are havens for perverts.

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Tobago Mother said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 10:05 AM

If the churches decide on a policy to expose and reject the perverts themselves ,all of them would run. Many churches and social organizations cannot find people to serve because of the unfortunate stigma attached to such roles. This is unfair to the good people who otherwise would wish to serve.

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Openminded said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 9:30 AM

Tobago News, you need to get your story straight. First of all the girl is not 14yrs old it happened when she was 14, she is now 18 yrs old. Secondly the mother did not find out what happened because she saw it on facebook, the girl reported to the high official of the church. Then showed it to the mother on facebook. Thirdly, before the church new about the incident, he was due to be assigned to another district because he was out of the country on study leave. When he came back to the country, he was fired and the church had him counselling. So Tobago News before printing a story please get your facts straight.

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Anonymous said on Wednesday, Jul 24 at 7:56 AM

for all who said ,dont judge,let me reach you on the street and rape you over and over again,while noone care,lets see if you would be singing the same song.GOD did give us the authorithy to make the wrongs right.to say no to evil,now how are we to do that if we just close our eyes .did we not get hands and feet for a purpose.are we not put here to plant the land and serve God.people stop with this primitive religious talk,and send a holy message that we do not want any of this existance in our society.lets protect our children,lets protect those who are innocent and fearfull,lets protect those who have loww selfesteem,lets protect those who seek comfort in all the wrong places,lets unite for good and not make excuses for evil,using God to justify evil.stop destroying TobAGO WITH this ridiculous talk of all have sin.their is sin which leads to death and their is sin that leads to life,choose life.

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t&t said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 11:02 PM

these are the sins Christ die for

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anonymous said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 9:57 PM

Let GOD do the judging.Although the pastor is evidently wrong, we need not to judge the religion. yes they may have made a few mistakes in taking care of this matter, but we are not to judge, for in every religion there is a bad nut among roses. What we need to do as citizens of Trinidad and Tobago, is to pray for this young girl and her family, that God will give them the strength to be able to go through this rough time they are facing. LET GOD ALONE DO THE JUDGING, NOT MAN!!!

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anonymous said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 9:41 PM

Pastor holder I am very disappointed I looked up to u so long but now you lost your stripes from me am very disappointed in u and I know the how general conference is too *sighs*

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Tobagomyheart said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 8:48 PM

My fellow Tobagonians. This is sad day in our history, many ones have gone before following this same journey but we must praise God for change and for our eyes being open. I pray that we remember that all sin is sin. If you want the ex-pastor dead then you should want death yourself. The lie you told yesterday and what he has done is no different. All is sin before God. Stop throwing stones and check your own life. This is a sign of the times in which we live. Come soon Lord Jesus.

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little island mentality said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 7:25 PM

children giving birth to children!and the mothers come to the hospitals holding their heads high.

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REVELATION. said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 6:03 PM

A sign of the times, these clannish folk in Tobago, her mother knew what was going on all along the reason why she reported the pastor to the church instead of the police. A lot of times the Parents are to blame for these kinds of things happening to their daughters. The demon pastor was wrong, wrong and they should lock him up.

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bago eyes n ears said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 5:55 PM

Former SDA Pastor Marlon Holder, who was slapped with 6 sexual related charges was granted bail at $100 000 with surety!!

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concern citizen said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 4:46 PM

As pastor why would you do such a thing....she could have been your child.......you will answer to GOD. This 14 year old should have said so mething a long time. e....Why did you wait til your mother gim d out...too much facebook

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empathy said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 2:58 PM

any reason why you deem my posting unfit to be posted???

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 1:59 PM

WE ARE PRAYING FOR THIS GIRL BY LAMDBLASTING THE CHURCH,WE ARE SAYING IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS,THAT ITS WRONG AND WE WANT THE CHURCH GONE.WE WANT JUSTICE FOR HER BY GETTING RID OF ALL WHO WERE INVOLVED AND KEPT QUIET.HOW DARE YOU PEOPLE COMPARE THE WORLD AND THE CHURCH,YOU UNDERMINE ITS MEANING ,VALUE AND PURPOSE.WE WANT JUSTICE FOR THIS GIRL AND AN EXAMPLE SET TO EXAMPLIFY WHAT WE WANT IN OUR CHURCHES AND SOCIETY,TO DO ANYTHING LESS,IS TO SEND CHURCHES TO THE SWINES HOUSE,ARE WE TO CAST PEARLS MEANING OUR CHILDREN TO SWINES ,WHO ARE SUPPOSE TO BE PEOPLE OF TRUST.IS THEIR NOM PLACE WHERE WE CAN FEEL SAFE AS PARENTS AND CHILDREN,WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE.IF TOBAGO DOES NOTHING ABOUT THIS SITUATION WE WOULD DESTROY THE STRUCTURE AND FOUNDADTION OF THE CHURCH AND COUNTRY INTEGRITY.TOBAGO CEASES TO BE A NATION OF GODS CHILDREN,START DOING THE WORKS AND SETTING THE PRINCIPLES OF GOD NOW,GOD IS WATCHING,WIPE THE SHAME AWAY FROM TOBAGO AND THIS INNOCENT CHILD.OTHERWISE WE STONE HER TO DEATH.

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 1:49 PM

who made them GODS servant,man our GOD.please.stop destroying the image of GOD,no wonder many are turning away from the faith.If they are servants of GOD i wonder what we should call the devil.servant of GOD AND MAN.

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SUNDAY SCHOOL IS THE PLACE TO GO said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 1:14 PM

WE WERE TOLD YEARS AGO! certainly makes me wonder all these years later!

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 1:06 PM

People we all have itchy ears leave all judgment to God an pray remember the story with the mouse the farmers wife and the trap

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bagogirl said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 11:38 AM

PEOPLE GET REAL.THERE ARE SINNERS IN AND OUT OF THE CHURCH.THAT SAID INSTEAD OF LAMBLASTING THE CHURCH .WHAT ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THIS GIRL?SHE AND HER FAMILY NEED OUR PRAYERS AND COUNSELLING.IN THIS SINFUL WORLD WE ALL NEED PRAYERS.

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Comrade said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 11:32 AM

I seek to address the immense pain that all families involved are presently experiencing. While many may want to cast aspersion towards God’s servants- to the contrary, it is my belief that all of us have fallen short of God's glory. On this premise therefore, let us seek instead to console or comfort one another in this period of sore distress. God has promised that He’d work everything out for those who fear Him.

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ann said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 8:33 AM

this has brought a tootal shame on the seventh day adventist church i personal know d mother and the child both are in a mess

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Anonymous said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 7:50 AM

yes we all have done something wrong at some point our the other,but we are not taking positions of authourity to misuse and hurt other innocent people willfully.should we let rapist,killers,drug sellers run wild in our society and then say ,he who is without sin cast stones.our we all have sin,what a society we would establish,noone would be safe our protected we would all be hunted.For me its not just the man ,its the entire head of this church,why should one man be the fall guy,when the entire head encouraged this deviant behaviour.we rely on these organisations to be of positive annd active value to our children growing up,they make up a part of the goverment,we were investing in them,and this is what we get,close down this entire institution.say no to it,and let good and positive changes come.do not destroy Tobago,by sparing this church.send a clear messagejesus cast out demons,not play around with them.let all churches know ,that this behaviour would not be tolerated.

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...-Looking from the outside-... said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 6:50 AM

I am sure all of you ppl responding here have done something wrong in your life, it don't matter if its small or big, don't judge leave it for the master!!!!

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alex NIGERIA said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 5:02 AM

those are the signs of the end time,and it has became a world wide phenomenon. it is a shame

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bago eyes n ears said on Tuesday, Jul 23 at 2:57 AM

yes an arrest was made with court appearance soon! name would be released afterwards.

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Gable said on Monday, Jul 22 at 9:55 PM

Christian-life men becoming christian-wife men. Wolves in sheep clothing.Using the "word" and molasses to catch flies. When that happening in the Church how do you expect to win the world? Some church cover wrong-doing to avoid shame but when dog sucking eggs you expose them, not cover it up.

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Country Girl said on Monday, Jul 22 at 9:27 PM

This is not right. imagine young girls are not even "safe" in the house of the LOrd>. i cant stand people who abuse there powers. esp to have sex with underage girls> let him deal with the law of the land, then he would answer to the Lord on Judgement day>

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Anarchy said on Monday, Jul 22 at 9:07 PM

THIS IS SAD, WHY IT IS THEY NEED SO MANY CHURCHES IN THIS SMALL ISLAND. ITS BECAUSE THE MEMBERS WANT TO DO THEIR OWN THING AND STRAYING FROM THE LAWS OF THE BIBLE, PROMOTING FORNICATION,HOMOSEXUALITY AND MONEY LAUNDERING AS WELL. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEM GOD HAS TO DEAL WITH WHEN HE COME ARE THESE CHURCHES WHERE PASTORS EXTORT MONEY FROM THESE POOR PEOPLE FOR ALL SORT OF THINGS, WHY OH WHY MY LITTLE TOBAGO. WHY CAN'T I ATTEND THE SAME CHURCH AS MY NEIGHBOUR? ARE THERE DIFFERENT GODS FOR THESE CHURCHES THAT CLAIM TO SERVE ONE GOD JESUS CHRIST THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. MY DARE TOBAGOIANS RIGHTEOUSNESS HAS BUT ONE CHURCH AND ONE ROAD TO WALK BUT THE WAY TO THE DEVIL HAS MANY ROADS AND CHURCHES WHERE YOU CAN BEND THE LAW TO YOUR FANCY. TAKE HEED TO THE WORD OF THE WISE

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hmmm said on Monday, Jul 22 at 8:45 PM

Let the LAW handle it!!!!!!! The same LAW that have murderers running around in trinidad and encourages aspiring criminals in tobago, the same LAW that have Police renting guns to bandits, the same LAW why the innocent citizen has no justice. Open your eyes, the present justice system has failed us, and continues to fail us daily. You have the power make an example, show your children that sin is a punishable offence, an eye for an eye.

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Friendly Me said on Monday, Jul 22 at 8:34 PM

BTW ppl, the man was caught and arrested....

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Schoolboy said on Monday, Jul 22 at 7:54 PM

A LOT OF PEOPLE [Tattlers]HERE CANNOT SPELL. WHAT A SHAME!

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Anonymous said on Monday, Jul 22 at 7:27 PM

1)SEVERAL illicit sexual acts reported over some years.2)the girl is 14.3) was due to be transfered after the report.4)pleas were made to keep the situation quiet.5)spent years trying to help someone ,who did not stop with illicit behaviours.with all this information,you people are stil convinced that this church should remain open,you encourage one devil to lift his head in sin ,and more devils would keep creeping into the system.The eye of the adulterer watches for dusk,he thinks noone will see me,and he keeps his face concealed.in the dark men bust intonhouses ,but by day thet shut themselves in,they want nothing to do with the light,for all of them deep darkness is their morning,they make friends with the terrors of darkness.Are we to allow such people to lead a congregation,i think not.If we do not send a clear message that these things would not be tolerated,we devalue and disgrace our teenagers.we do not want pedofils hiding out in our country and certainly not in our churches.

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bago eyes n ears said on Monday, Jul 22 at 7:20 PM

This is just one small step in the fight against child sex abuse and incest that is so pervasive in our island. An arrest n charges r imminent so please stay tuned

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Sinner saved by grace said on Monday, Jul 22 at 6:54 PM

When Pastor Regis was caught in Trinidad with the wife of a member of his church, i forgave him and when The Pentecostal Pastor from east Tobago was caught with another woman I forgave him too and most importantly God forgave them all!I am sure these men are not the first to bring the clergy into question! We have to be mindful of bashing other Religion, at the end of the day we are MAN, born in SIN!!!! Remember what Jesus said to the Harlot, " go and SIN no more"! No one is saying the Pastor is RIGHT, but for God's sake let us leave RELIGION out of this situation because if a Study is done we might not like the results!We SIN differently each day!I know of a woman who went bed with TEN different men and she is not yet forty and still running around, should I bring her down, "Hell No"! Christ died for her too!If night should turn to day a number of persons will be caught in their NASTY ACTS! Stop Bashing RELIGION!

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Leave It To God said on Monday, Jul 22 at 5:57 PM

People let us remember the church did all they could do. Why are we coming down on the church? They did what they could. They don't portray themselves walking all holier than thou. Some do but not everyone. Not because there is one bad egg means the whole batch spoil. His behaviour is not to be excused at any time. It is evident he has a problem. Let us stop labelling the church as bad and other offensive comments. Instead highlight the need for justice and ways to stop these things from happening.

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Phantom said on Monday, Jul 22 at 5:37 PM

Let us never excuse or try to hide this behaviour regardless of the source. We have to protect our love ones. They are counting on us. Let us keep open communications with our boys and girls. I have repeated told my children to let me know if anyone touched them inappropriately. If we do not develop open relationships with our children they may be scared to present the news to us. At times they may figure we will not believe them so they say nothing. Let us all learn from this and do all we can to ensure no repeats.

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Phantom said on Monday, Jul 22 at 5:37 PM

I am feeling horrible for the young girl. We need to pray for her and other like her since this is something only prayer and counseling can heal. We also need to pray for the minister. In fact, we all need prayer when it comes to one thing or another. This is an emotional topic, but let us be sensible in our approach. How can we label all folks in one religion as bad. God has his children everywhere. Apparently, the church has done its part, let us wait to see what happens from a legal point before we stone individuals without trials. Let us appeal to our leaders for more awareness on this topic.

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The Messenger said on Monday, Jul 22 at 5:05 PM

Matthew 15-17: Moreover if thy Brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell his fault btwn thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee thou has gained thy brother. But if He will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two witness every word may be established. and if he shall neglect to hear them , tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

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Missy said on Monday, Jul 22 at 4:23 PM

I am a victim of child rape, and as much as this brings a bitter feeling, it is sad to hear this. This sin is not just something that plagues SDA or Christians, is a society issue. We feed our minds with garbage and vice and expect issues like this not to arise. I can relate to this girl and her parent with a deep heart of pain especially as I am a parent as well now. However, the article didn't state that the SDA church encouraged the man to go molest the girl. It was stated that the Pastor was being counseled (I assumed it was prior to the event) and the Pastor knowing what he did resigned. LET THE LAW DEAL WITH THE ISSUE

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Contol Tower said on Monday, Jul 22 at 3:50 PM

look at that eh? Let's wait and see if the story as it is posted is accurate.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Jul 22 at 3:38 PM

It's a shame! The pastor seem to be having this problem a while and seeked counselling. A man is just a man. So there is no reason why people should come down on the Faith and the church. We are all guilty before God, so cast the first stone...Something may occur in another Faith or church u hear it and then it slowly dies away. Come on SDA let ur light shine so that men can see ur works! Remember who you r and who u represent!

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JUDGE NOT said on Monday, Jul 22 at 2:40 PM

CAN'T YOU PEOPLE READ??? THE PASTOR/CHURCH IS NOT THE LAW THEY DID THEIR PART AND NOW THE MATTER IS IN THE HANDS OF THE LAW. THERE ARE SINNERS IN AND OUT OF CHURCH AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO (SINCE WE ARE STRONG) IS HELP THOSE WHO ARE WEAK BECAUSE YOUR SIN IS NOT YOUR BROTHER'S SIN...AND IN GOD'S EYES THERE IS NO BIG SIN AND LITTLE SIN, WHAT WE CAN DO NOW IS PRAY FOR THE BROTHER IT IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE CHURCH TO CONDEMN (NOR IS IT YOUR ROLE) LEAVE IT ALL IN GOD'S HANDS...DON'T COMMIT ANOTHER SIN BY CONDEMING THE BROTHER BECAUSE HE MAY MAKE IT INTO HEAVEN BEFORE US!

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Judge NOT said on Monday, Jul 22 at 2:17 PM

I wonder if people cannot read?? The leader is saying that the pastor resigned and the matter is not in the hands of the law, there are sinners everywhere in and out of church. The devil and his agents are busy at work, what we need to do is pray for the weak ones dont cry them down because there is not big sin and little sin...

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Prime said on Monday, Jul 22 at 2:07 PM

SDA religion is one of the most curropted out of all religion, and yet they portray themselves as saints. when these people come to you on a saturday i appeal to citizen to stone them, loose your dogs to keep them afar, let them keep thier filtiness to themselves.

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cucmber said on Monday, Jul 22 at 1:41 PM

They should hang all the people who running that church Hang he moda A55 in market square

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big dog said on Monday, Jul 22 at 1:18 PM

Thats a SDA thing fornication, adultery and homosexuality are some of the behaviors condoned in the SDA church. GOD HELP US.

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Natasha, MD said on Monday, Jul 22 at 12:45 PM

What the whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat! this mother reported it to the 'high ranking' officials of the church? why? Lady in the eyes of the law, your daughter was raped, you report that first and foremost to the police. nevermind the slackers may not act swiftly but no one can say you had not done your part to report it! what you running to these officials for, they are all friend and company, yuh think they will defrock him? NO they'll just send him somewhere else to continue his pedophilic assaults.

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Anonymous said on Monday, Jul 22 at 12:30 PM

A repeating sin that diminishes and devalues an organization which is suppose to represent integrity and GODLY intentions and behaviour should be stoned ,because we cannot rely on anyone within this organisation to protect and guide our children and society.What are we to encourage and consell sodom and gomorra while they wear robes that signifies honour.WHAT PRETENDS. I say not,lets send a clear message that we would not entertain such acts,because if we sit by idle and excuse these kinds of acts we allow to creep into our society sin upon sins upon sins,because they would hide behind,he who has no sin cast thenfirst stone and many such quotes.This man needs to pay for the consequences of his actions,he disgraces himself,our teens,Tobago and all that we stand for.these people are afraid of loosing position and money,they care nothing about the soul of this man our the downfall of Tobago.

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atlanta gonian said on Monday, Jul 22 at 11:50 AM

Whats new? when i went to school in the 80's,there were 2 well knowned male teachers in signal hill who were pedophiles taking advantage of young 14 yr old girls,and one getting pregnant and had an obortion,yet one of them is still involved in the THA on a cultural level.I found out that in tobao ,it is very pervasive,even a known opposition member got shot in face making him looking like a manicou because it was alleged he was showing off his licensed gun to a 15yr old girl he was sleeping with,disgusting.

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who cares..... said on Monday, Jul 22 at 11:34 AM

Imagine that the secretary/treasurer stated that the pastor had been in counselling. This suggests to me that his acts were known and I question how many other persons have been affected by this pastor. What then is the church's responsibility to the legal part of this scenario?

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Guy said on Monday, Jul 22 at 10:30 AM

That church was condoning this pastor's illicit act all the while. Why hasn't he been dealt with earlier? And this is not the first time this sort of thing has happen in the SDA realm. Shame on Tobago SDA.

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Tobago Mother said on Monday, Jul 22 at 7:19 AM

So, the person who gets the help is the offender? Organizations must be resolute to stop enabling wrong doers by protecting their privacy. Dog that does suck egg will not stop.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Jul 21 at 10:43 PM

While I do not condone what was done, the Bible clearing talks about bringing brotherly issues before the public. I believe that this Pastor was left to roam too long, but God is the final judge. Why bring shame upon the organisation and the name of god?

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Jul 21 at 9:19 PM

hmm

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VICTORIA said on Sunday, Jul 21 at 8:24 PM

YE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. ANONYMOUS WHO EVER YOU ARE CAST IT LET ME SEE. PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS THEY ASSISTED BY PROVIDING COUNSELLING. EVERYONE HAS SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. THE BATTLE IS THE LORDS

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Jul 21 at 5:08 PM

WE Aranged several conseling sessions with him,this church needs to close down.who are they serving god our man.knowing this and keeping it a secret is disgusting in every angle,this is not the example we want to protray to our youths.

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Anonymous said on Sunday, Jul 21 at 2:31 PM

sigh..

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